This interview between myself and Shane Bales (aka The Ruiner) is completely unrehearsed and free-wheeling!

It goes off the rails and into every subject you can think of!  

It is a no holds barred and full on discussion of the problems we all face!

Some foul language is present, but for the most part it is an avid and honest look at what is really happening.

A full two hours of “FLY ON THE WALL” witnessing to just ONE of our usual discussions in real time!   I hope you all enjoy!

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