By: Bradley Loves
I see that it is necessary (for oh so brief a moment) to skip ahead to a MUCH HIGHER LEVEL!
I’m writing this and expending my precious energy for one of my readers – and regular comment posters – SAVE TO WIN…, as a way to bring clarity to certain issues he has brought up.
WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE “TRUTH” IN EXPERIENCE – CAN NEVER BE CONVEYED SIMPLY BY WORDS…
All Religious doctrine and theory aside…, whether it’s Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, or Hindu…, no words can come close to REAL EXPERIENCE!
I have been (out of necessity) writing most of my blog (which is a Life/Spiritual/Teaching blog) at the first or second grade level since I began.
I do this because this is where MOST of my readers are.
I have (at times) “skipped” forward to the fifth and sixth grade levels, only to make a certain point…, before coming back down to the first and second grade level again.
Being a “good teacher”…., I can NOT move any faster than my readers can learn.
You wrote in the comment section that you prefer to think of the Creator as “Brahma” and the TRUTH, as “Shiva”.
You are on the “wrong” track…, and I’m only being honest!
Once again…, these are mere words…, and in the ultimate reality they have no bearing on what is formless!
Even ideas themselves (like everything else) will pass away when they come into the DIRECT PATHWAY of the CREATOR.
Before that happens…, “words” and “ideas” and “thoughts” (EVEN NAMES) are all FORMS which try to describe something which is formless and can NOT be limited into a finite box.
The very moment a particular being (any being) claims to be “A GOD”…, that being has proven to be a FAKE simply by claiming it.
For the TRUE GOD can not be “described” through the use of a mere word.
This is why I prefer to address the Infinite as: PRIME CREATOR!
(Instead of using the word: GOD)
Creator (as a definition) is pure truth in that anything that lives and breaths (on any level) came into it’s existence as a result of FIRST CAUSE!
Prime (as a definition) relates to the position on the scale of when/how/where it all began. PRIME means “first” again.
So thus, PRIME CREATOR literally means: The very FIRST- FIRST CAUSE!
One can not get any more CLEAR or PRECISE than this, and so this is the best description (in words) for GOD!
There are many countless Astral and Cosmic beings (the Hindu’s could name hundreds) who lay claim to “BEING A GOD”…, but what they really mean to say is that these beings are “gods”…, (small “g” thank you very much).
OR…, from my point of view…, they are more refined beings (who live on another level) who wish to give themselves “important” sounding names.
Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva are “gods”…, because they are “parts” of the whole – and do not carry the full understanding OF THE WHOLE.
NO ONE WHO LIVES AND BREATHS CAN DESCRIBE IN WORDS (USING SOUNDS) WHAT THE WHOLE REALLY IS…, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE!
For words are very limited, and so are thoughts, and so are ideas, and so are NAMES!
This is why all Religions fail in the End.
SAVE TO WIN…, I appreciate your attempt in trying to learn about and “describe” GOD…,
My friend…, this is NOT POSSIBLE!
If you wish to KNOW GOD…, then EXPERIENCE GOD…, ONCE YOU DO…, YOU WILL REALIZE THERE IS NO WAY TO DESCRIBE GOD!
All my love….
Very true sufi scholar Ibn Arabi had said the original meaning of the scriptures has been modified by the tradition meaning.
http://fazelsubian.com/acronyms-of-letters-of-quran-religious-scriptures/
He designed a system with 28 arabic words through which a person can decode the hidden meaning of the Quran.
Thank You for being with us and guiding us with your wisdom.
I’ll quote from Tao te Ching some chapters, as reply to your quotes:
>The very moment a particular being (any being) claims to be “A GOD”…, that being has proven to be a FAKE simply by claiming it.
>For the TRUE GOD can not be “described” through the use of a mere word.
1:
The tao that can be told
is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named
is not the eternal Name.
>Before that happens…, “words” and “ideas” and “thoughts” (EVEN NAMES) are all FORMS which try to describe something which is formless and can NOT be limited into a finite box.
>Once again…, these are mere words…, and in the ultimate reality they have no bearing on what is formless!
25:
There was something formless and perfect
before the universe was born.
It is serene. Empty.
Solitary. Unchanging.
Infinite. Eternally present.
It is the mother of the universe.
For lack of a better name,
I call it the Tao.
Man follows the earth.
Earth follows the universe.
The universe follows the Tao.
The Tao follows only itself.
This is why, I consider ‘Tao’, from Tao Te Ching to be described as a ‘True God’.
By the way, Tao Te Ching is actually my first post in this blog.
To quote from my comment:
>I personally think Truth, Justice in it’s perfect form could be considered the ‘real god’ and also ‘Tao’ as it is, represents these values well. To make it simple, ‘Ultimate Truth’ is worth serving, studying and honoring.
As for the whole ‘Shiva’ thing, I might consider it as the person, or personality to best represent it(the Tao), based on historical texts, that’s all. It’s up to each of us to verify it if it’s correct. To me this paragraph is just an assumption based on(logical or imagined) experience, and it’s very hard, if not impossible to verify, unless you have a time machine that doesn’t change the universe when you observe it, and that allows you to possibly go beyond the point of beginning and end, and see if there is something before or after it.
>no words can come close to REAL EXPERIENCE!
Exactly. But imagination can get pretty close. The words and logic pointed out the experience. After all, experience is actually memories learned and understood in subconscious, in short, images and sound/shape. If one has a very good imagination, one can get pretty close to the ‘real experience’. This is known as a fact in athletes that used imagination to hit perfect scores, and Michael Jordan comes to mind. Imagining hitting that perfect ball, over and over, feeling the moves, being aware, all that, ‘imagined experience’, is almost, if not sometimes better than ‘real experience’. So it depends how one defines ‘experience’, to know how good it is or how real it is.
With all this, I appreciate your reply, this actually helps other readers to understand the concepts and not make false assumptions.
To make it clear, the ‘Real God’ as you say, it looks to be the ‘Tao’ in Tao Te Ching. Also what would need to be ‘studied’, is the ‘Truth’ that always stays True, and ‘Justice’ that always stays ‘Just’. Truth and Justice that remain true and just, all the time.
The point that mere words cannot adequately describe God is important. This is probably one of the reasons why those evil manipulators, enslavers and controllers removed humanity’s ability to telepathically communicate. Humans still do have the potentiality to telepathically communicate. It is more difficult as our genetics were likely sabotaged to prevent this. And now lately even our IQ levels are being damaged by fluoride, vaccinations and other poisons to deliberately prevent us from becoming more aware. We are birds who have had our wings clipped on purpose to prevent us from flying. This is cruelty on an industrial scale which feeds the negative energies of suffering and misery which seems to be the fuel of the evil ones.
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>This is probably one of the reasons why those evil manipulators, enslavers and controllers removed humanity’s ability to telepathically communicate.
No surprise that we use electronics to communicate, and a useful ‘AI’ to analyze it and sort it out and do all the logical, automated work. My guess it’s harder to ‘eavesdrop’ the telepathic stuff and there you go.
Also I think ‘telepathy’ can be trained, and it’s merely forgotten, or harder to learn, instead of it being ‘removed’. I’m pretty sure there are some exercises on the internet to learn to use telepathy, but the time, effort and learning curve are unsure to bring up useful results for it. People communicate freely with electronics and can sometimes use encryption. Telepathy would likely be useful mostly in ‘james bond’ stuff nowadays, or only as a backup if ‘electronics fail’. After all, if ‘electronics fail’, by some emp or solar flare, the people would be reduced to sending letters (that is, if postmail still works when people can’t use electronics), and only then, the ‘trained’ telepaths would be useful.
As for indirect proof of ‘telepathy’ working, I remember Bradley posting something about Shane B., talking telepathically with giants. Another Pandora’s Box for our time. 🙂